Tuesday, April 28, 2020

Trying to stay sane in an irrational world.

Now updated with pictures.

Tonight I had some feelings to cram down. So we wound up in a fast food drive through and were placing our order when all of a sudden we heard a crash and the truck moved. We were like - what was that? Finally we realized someone had hit the back of our car.

We expected the person to get out and say sorry, but they stayed in their car. So I got out.

She still wasn't getting out so finally I asked her if she was okay. Immediately she says - you backed into me! I'm like - that's crazy. She's shoots back - you BACKED INTO ME. I'm not okay. I'm injured. I'm disabled! I live in that car.

Mr S. already gave her our information, but I kept trying to get her to give me hers. Then all of a sudden she's like I'm calling 911. Then starts to sit down on the pavement in the drive through isle.

There are two people behind us now and I have to tell them the woman is claiming to be injured.

She makes a huge dramatic scene apparently to 911 - because the fire department, an ambulance and four cops show up. For real. 

Mr S. went to move the truck so we could clear the drive through, and I guess that woman had left the car in drive because as soon as he moved - her car starting rolling without her inside.

The whole thing was quite the scene. The medics and everyone came sirens blazing.

The fast food place said they heard the whole thing, but didn't see it. They confirmed our story.

The whole thing was just the craziest thing ever. Be careful out there people.


  1. You could be locked down with nicer people than this ...

    ... if you want to be locked down at all?

    How's South Dakota looking to you right now? :-)

  2. glad you're ok, hope there's not to much damage to the truck!

    Had a guy roll into my car's rear a year or so ago. Stop and go traffic, on a road with a slight incline. An incline such that it was pretty much impossible for me to have rolled backwards. Sitting at a full stop when suddenly the car jerks forward. Yank the parking brake, and look in the rear view and there's a pickup leaning on my bumper. Jackass driver looking at his cell phone. Traffic was heavy enough I wasn't getting out of the car in the middle of the road, and as soon as traffic opened up to move he jumped into the next lane around me and was off. Except that traffic was heavy, and he was going to shop at my work, so I ended up right behind him not 30 seconds later *rolls eyes*. Lucky for him the impact was slow enough there wasn't any damage to my car.

  3. "glad you're ok, hope there's not to much damage to the truck!"

    Thank you. It was sort of the perfect crash for the truck as you can see from the newly added pictures.. I'm more worried about her trying to sue the hell out of me. If there is a next time I am definitely pressing record before I even get out of the car. I always assume people are mostly rational.

    "Did the interior of her car look like she lived in it?"

    I didn't even get a chance to look inside. Even when I tried to help her stop the car. She didn't want me going in the drivers side. The fire department finally had to move the car.

  4. Capital of Texas RefugeeWednesday, April 29, 2020 3:28:00 PM

    "I'm more worried about her trying to sue the hell out of me."

    The impact damage might not say a lot to you, but it'll say a lot to someone who has seen a lot of impact damage.

    And it's saying this: your vehicle was stationary when the impact occurred.

    Also, the fact that her vehicle continued to move when you attempted to clear yours, and that she invited the police and the fire department to see that she wasn't in control of the vehicle?

    Does California have a Baker Act equivalent?

    Because that bitch is totally crazy. :-)

  5. How can you tell that from a photo? The thing I noticed is we aren't the only thing she's hit. Interesting comment about her not having control of the vehicle though. The whole thing was really overwhelming. You just expect someone to pop out like that.

  6. Capital of Texas RefugeeThursday, April 30, 2020 1:55:00 AM

    I could give you a list that would satisfy an engineer, but ...

    The other vehicle's hood appears to have popped slightly over a part of your bumper, which is a sign that your vehicle was stationary when the impact took place.

    If your vehicle had hit the car, it would have resulted in considerably more damage to that vehicle's hood (especially since it would have gone over it), plus your bumper might have been shifted out of alignment a lot more.

    So yeah, that's pretty obvious.

  7. Hello Snarkolepsy,

    you might ask the restaurant and any neighbors for copies of any security camera footage. Before it is taped over.

    Also, you know more about cars than I, my memory is there are computers in newer cars that record activity. Such would show your car did not reverse. Also likely records over after some time.

    jeff denver

  8. Thanks Jeff. I asked the fast food place and they didn't have access to the feed.

  9. Capital of Texas RefugeeFriday, May 01, 2020 12:16:00 AM

    "... my memory is there are computers in newer cars that record activity ..."

    The device is called an Event Data Recorder, or an EDR.

    It would be a good idea for Snarkie or Mister S to see if a Toyota dealer could dump the information from the EDR to hardcopy ... BUT ... and this is really a big BUT, BTW ...

    I'll warn you in advance: the dump is very likely going to contain no information at all, and that may be a good thing.

    The EDR typically only records when it senses a crash, and when it does, it stores its sensor buffers from a few seconds before the accident to a few seconds after it.

    Most EDRs do not sense low-speed and low-impact crashes.

    In the event that the EDR did store that data, it would have also stored that the vehicle's speed was in fact zero, which would provide ample proof, but chances are very good that there isn't anything stored within the EDR.

    Also, Snarkie's insurance company might have some advice about how to dump the EDR data to hardcopy, and they may offer to do it just to protect against fraudulent insurance claims.

    Fraud prevention people love getting their hands on liars that can be proven to be liars with the help of these kinds of devices, and so if this person has a habit of making these kinds of claims, the EDR data if it's there would prove that they're bullshit.

    So that's probably the best you can do at this point.

  10. Capital of Texas RefugeeFriday, May 01, 2020 12:24:00 AM

    "I asked the fast food place and they didn't have access to the feed."

    Of course the people in the fast food place don't have access to the feed.

    Ask them who does.

    An attorney is also a good conduit for making these kinds of requests, and also your insurance company's people might be willing to do this for you.

    So ask your insurance company if they can do this.

    They'll probably be happy to help if they can avoid a fraudulent claim.

  11. You okay Leaperman? You seem to be spiraling a bit.

  12. Most businesses in the US will only release CCTV footage as a result of a court order.

    Quit while you're ahead!