Monday, April 20, 2020

There is zero evidence of immunity.

COVID-19 'Immunity Passports' Stoke 'Grave Concerns'.

Limited or otherwise. I wish people would stop saying it. The whole weekend I saw nothing but this kind of talk. You see - there was an antibody test done in Santa Clara that claimed more people had it than we knew.

I'm going to go on record saying the people at Stanford drew the wrong conclusions because it was NOT a random test. It was likely people who had a higher risk and ran to be tested. I know because Mr S. has people in his office that were quarantined due to their travel to Wuhan.

Everyone who was taken down by a bug in December likely were in that study. Even Mr S. wanted to get tested.

Now, because everyone repeats this non verified information about immunity, people in the Bay Area feel their risk has passed because they have already been exposed.

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I'd like to add that I think the reason the Bay Area has fared better is because early on they started triaging cases. On April 2, I got an email from a medical provider I see in Fremont who said they were separating respiratory cases from all other cases. I can't imagine all other providers did not do the same. At the time I thought it was pretty clever. It likely helped a LOT.

In China they were so overwhelmed that people who were positive walked from hospital to hospital spreading the virus as they went.

3 comments:

  1. Capital of Texas RefugeeMonday, April 20, 2020 2:38:00 PM

    "Scientists" always fuck things up because they're rarely aware of what seem to them to be normal selection criteria that hide large amounts of selection bias.

    Engineers don't give a shit as long as the solutions work and fit the requirements.

    I trust medical engineering with this stuff a lot more than some "scientists" trying to get noticed by the mainstream media.

    And that's why the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin combo is actually brilliant: it's an engineering solution that for the most part has been working under less than ideal real-world conditions, and for the cases where this hasn't been working, there are still other options.

    So it's an engineering solution that "flattens the curve" for people who have actually been infected versus all of the people who could be infected, which happens to be the curve associated with "Save the NHS" and "Save the New York Hospitals" and all of the other bureaucratic broken health care system self-preservational bullshit.

    Allow me to do my best Steve Jobs impression: Real heroes ship treatments that work.

    Everything else is just a form of jerking off with the help of "science".

    Also, this "immunity passport" thing?

    It's like these smug fuckers watched the movie "Code 46" and decided that the locked-down world in it was where they felt most comfortable.

    Meanwhile, in Jacksonville, the beaches are open again.

    Politicians figured it out: bullets, long knives, and hastily assembled nooses hanging from trees are a greater risk of sudden death for politicians than the coronavirus.

    And so they are slow-learning animals. :-)

    Some of my neighbors could have invited them to a pretty good impromptu rock concert, but they'd probably have been pissing themselves in fear because of all of the hardware there.

    If they actually acted like "men of the people" and "women of the people", they would have a lot less to worry about in this regard, but they just can't resist the call to power and what they think they can get away with, can they?

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  2. I think the lockdowns exacerbate the beach problem. You never want something as bad as when you can't have it.

    It's likely giving people an impulse to go even if they never actually do that before. It's just human nature. We all feel it.

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  3. Capital of Texas RefugeeMonday, April 20, 2020 10:57:00 PM

    "You never want something as bad as when you can't have it."

    "OFFICER, ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE ROUGH SEX ON THE INTERSTATE WHILE DRIVING AT OVER 110 MILES PER HOUR?"

    There isn't a month that goes by without Florida Man trying it.

    But yeah, the lockdowns do make the problem worse.

    Contingency plans for escaping the United States have been made and include sailing across the Atlantic twice before arriving at the destination, leaving from Port Everglades so I can try to get an exit stamp in my US passport that should help me establish and maintain non-resident tax breaks on foreign income.

    Just as long as the crew doesn't get The Rona, things should be OK.

    In the meantime, I'll facilitate the movement of needed supplies and goods, at least when we can get that facilitated instead of getting it clusterfucked like it seems to be partly so far.

    Even with System D, black market, and counter-economy hacks, there are still supply chain problems to deal with, BTW.

    BUT IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE CHINESE
    STILL DELIVERING DEATH DRUGS VIA FAST BOATS
    JUST OFF THE COAST FROM MIAMI
    YEAH, CAN'T LET THAT TRADE GET SLOW
    NO SUPPLY CHAIN FUCKERY RIGHT THERE

    COOF COOF COOF fffffffuuuuuuuuuuu china COOF COOF COOF

    Rudy Giuliani's new phrase for Chinese tourists spreading The Rona was great.

    "Death Ambassadors"

    That'll stick. :-)

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